People in glass houses, shouldn't feel VOXED-in
The debate began Aug 23rd when a blogger posted an interesting item entitled Score one, ... for who actually? The item dealt with illegal immigrants in the USA. My sentiments were that the statements were xenophobic. I have since been proven totally wrong in my initial argument, at least as far as the comments left on Scio's blog may be considered. The debate has somehow taken a turn since the mention of "criminal immigration" and my response thereto. I was making the point that the term "criminal" should be used with caution.
The debate has now turned to the criminality or otherwise of the war in Iraq.
Scio is a catholic voxer of some note, a confessed conservative, and in my opinion, a lot of other potentially significant things. But, I guess people in glass houses like myself shouldn't throw stones.
Which brings me to another point, to repeat the now cliched term made famous by the British TV series, Monty Python's Flying Circus:
AND NOW FOR SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT!
I have been considering of late, how terribly BOXED in one starts to feel at VOX. Perhaps it's my location in the far east, where the word "vox" is pronounced as "box"? Or perhaps it's merely my psychotic tendency to form loose associations between essentially unrelated issues? On a serious note, i should be careful for in the event some intelligent life form out there is also in profound disagreement with me, with a tendency to act with aggression, i may be in serious trouble. For my associations may be a dead give away to those who would really give it some thought. But then again, perhaps the producers of those great American TV shows like CSI are nothing more than figments of some writer's imagination, bearing no resemblance at all to personages in reality, drawing profiles and following leads as they do.
Enough about CSI then, what am i on about here? Well, paranoid-driven, i have set about trying desperately to think outside the BOX. Feeling claustrophobed by the complimentary comments, the conservative one hand washing the other, the liberals scratching one back and getting a complimentary scratch in return. I have an issue with adding friends to one's VOX who agree with me. I tend to seek out those who disagree and invite them instead, as a way of ensuring I don't become stale in my blogging efforts. The groups so often have this sort of claustrophobic feel to them as well. "If you aren't gay, don't come in". The group managers are bouncers ready to bounce your head on out there as soon as you post something they define as "outside the VOX". "If you don't always make the sign of the cross, then don't dig or del.ico.us.irise Gregorian chants". Blogs and groups become i scratch your back, you scratch mine affairs. In this respect, i somehow see the logic of Aput's blog mentality of "sitting on the fence". The danger in this of course is that one viewpoint becomes superimposed over another. One voice being silenced into submission. One voice howling the conservative view, the other seeking acceptance at all costs. If this is the end result, then damn that route. Either VOXers are too polite, or we vox in a time of self-imposed censorship? I maintain of someone voxes something, he is seeking comment. If they were private thoughts that were not seeking comment, then they would have been hidden, unblogged, not voxed. For me, voxed is the antithesis of boxed.
I am interested to find out other's views on this matter. Be that as it may be, i am blogging at several other sites, just to get out of the Vox-Box so to speak. Trying to employ the causes and groups at Facebook, though this seldom seems to work, as social networking tools in this ilk, are often merely glamourised and modernised popularity runs, to see who get's the most friends before the pyramid falls flat. My other reason for being so many different monkeys with AK (a keyboard), is once again my paranoia that this blog will be shut down. My constant hope is that I will be that famous one day. Truly, it would be an honor to be shut down for more than merely exposing my more private aspects.
To end off, i will give readers a definition of blogging that i read in a comment on an Azanian blog, made in reference to the Thought Leaders blogging forum (an initiative of the Mail & Guardian). The person referred to blogging as "wanking with an audience". My Catholic persona rejects wanking as a total waste of time and good DNA. My other personae (one of me does a daily roll call) rejects the notion that all blogs fall into that category, just as all of us are not wankers. Some of us seek to utilize our DNA for what it was intended.
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I think it is difficult not to form alliances in any mass form of interaction we have with other people. This can be a good thing if we are looking for emotional/spiritual/personal support.
I can see that as far as a world view is concerned it can be a bad thing if we just associate with people with the same view point.
There are times when arguing with some one with strong political view points ends up becoming virtually a waste of time and energy as it becomes very obvious that those people really are not interested in a different viewpoint and have got no intention of even considering it. It is during these exchanges that I find some people then reverting to personal attacks rather than the initial issue. The other thing though about arguing with another who will not listen, is that hopefully some one just reading the arguments as an observer may be influenced by the arguments of the people actually engaged in the argument and may learn something positive from the exchange. That has always been my hope when arguing with some one who will not even listen.
At the moment I am conserving energy and prefer to argue with people who at least may consider a different view point i.e. their mind is open, just as my mind is open to their viewpoint. I also try not to get into arguments on subjects that I know nothing about.
I have to admit though whenever I have been totally howled down by opponents in “their” arena it is nice to fall back and communicate with people of similar minds just to recharge the batteries to an extent. When I say similar minds, I don’t mean that we agree on every issue, but we are willing to have an open mind and we are able to help each other keep, “fighting the good fight.” I would put you in that category if that is okay. As you know we do not agree on every issue, but we do at least respect each other enough to allow that disagreement. I hope I am accurate in this respect.
But I think it is part of human nature that we all like to occasionally be told, "You did a good job or I agree with you." Most of us need some form of reassurance or positive acknowledgement from time to time.
The nice thing about Vox is the levels one can choose to publish any item at. If an item is meant only for allies, one can publish for family. With the anyone publication, it's really anyone's arena.
I thought it was quite 'criminal' the way the ancestors of the 'white' americans slaughtered and relocated the aboriginals of the state now known as the 'us of a' as part of their immigration process.
Thus, any efforts to criminalise immigration is little more than an attempt to pull up the ladder after one has ascended it.
As for 'blogging' being 'wanking in front of an audience', the person who came up with it is an obvious idiot. There are different types of blogs just as there are different types of books, newspaper articles, films, documentaries, etc. I never heard expression via these mediums being called as such. It is simply a case of not being able to see the trees for the forest. One wonders how such inane views get published in sites such as the one you provided the link for - which i liken to 'wanking with a limp d*ck in front of an audience'. It is not the medium of communication that ought to define one, but the quality or type of content.
Could you please supply the direct link to the article in focus? Thanks mate...and keep up the good work.
Zukile Majova gives a breakdown of the issue with Zimbabwe at the moment. Majova is ANC/SA government leaning. The dialogue one can see there is confusing to the outsider, yet hopefully one can put some alternative information into the grist and eventually thrash out some of the wankers from the bloggers who seriously want to get moving beyond the virtual stage. M&G has a good system, if the articles is cited on a blog, the M&G page will direct any interested reader to blogs that comment on the article. M&G covers many global issues as well as African issues.
Sometimes I also don't state my actual opinion until well into the discuss just so that the discussion doesn't have "too much" of my own bias placed on the entry at the start. By staying out of the discussion in the early stages it also gives me a chance to actually learn something from the participants and I think it also makes people feel free to express their opinions as they do not have the feeling that they are up against a friend or foe so to speak.
That is an interesting point about the lack of need for bouncers in African Traditional settings.
This could be interpreted in a few ways.
Nice post.
Aww.. I get a mention...
Sorry I was so late to read this. One of the reasons I'm a good fence sitter is probably due to the fact that I'm a Libra.
I think when I mention sitting on the fence, I mean that there are things that I agree with the conservatives, especially on crime prevention and capital punishment, but at the same time, I have a lot that I think liberally about, mostly about social issues and national policies.
And then there's the whole "protect my religion from being grievously misunderstood due to idiots" mode that I have to cultivate to explain the actions certain members of my religion who go around chopping off heads and all that kinda thing.
Thank God Scio didn't bring up the Korean refugees in Afghanistan.
The thing is, one should defend the position properly. Conflict situations have causes, and any examination of issues by Scio tends to be very narrow, and would probably have ignored the fact that the USA actually funded those hoodlums running around today in Afghanistan. Also, had Scio posted anything, he would have ignored the fact that those poor Koreans went in under the premise that teh war is over (a fairy tale being put out by the Americans).
One should never water down one's religion in order to fit in with the dominant crowd. Doing this, puts one in danger of spreading untruths. In Azania, we are seeing the fruits of changing our ideology just in order to get a seat at the table. We have played into the hands of the criminals. And so, i have a deep scorn for this kind of fence sitting.
Keep up the good work mate.